Inter-Corp PvP Tournament

[mojo]

Lo All,

I spoke with Jayseven of Cognet last night about arranging a PvP Tourny between our corps. It would take place in safe sec and would require some can theft to stop Concord ganking the crap out of us.

I would like to see various tournaments so as to take into account of the different ship classes we are all happy flying. So there would be weight divisions similar to boxing. The following fights would be one on one; Frigs, Cruisers, BCs and BS. I suppose the frig fight could be fought to destruction but with the heavier classes I propose that the fight be over when one party is pushed to 10% armour on cruisers and 50% hull on BCs and BS.

Jay suggested we also have team battles with teams of 2 or 3 ships from different classes, proper gang warfare.

I would also like to see both corps put up a prize fund of 25 mil for the final of each class, so the grand champion gets 50 mil.

The following rules would have to be in place;

1) No T2 fittings.
2) No Faction fittings.
3) All ships scanned prior to battle.
4) No warping or docking once battle has commenced.

Folks, let me know what you think of the idea, and if you can let me know what ship classes you are interested in participating in.

If you have any ideas to improve the tourny then add them too please.

Mojo

[carita]

so standard tech I fittings only? no named aswell.

also, the engagement? range? tackling?

also a personal question, do I have to desside for 1 char to use? or can I use for ex. carita for BS, BC battle and cendie for cruiser, frig battle. or can I battle with them individualy?

we're not bothering with tech II ships I take it?

sounds like a good idea though.

[kristov]

Love the idea. Just got a few ideas:

- People be only to enter one maybe two classes. don't want one person to potentially win every class.
- maybe the team tournament should be system wide. no docking allowed (so a system with no stations) would make the engagement a little more interesting.
- We film 3 or 4 camera angles, I'll edit it together and we can make a nice video of all the battles.

Kris

[carita]

Like the system wide thing,
but maby not on all but like 1 class we call battle X-treme were ye need tacklers and EW and whatever else you want, and separat that from examble team BS battle were you don't run just fight it out

[Willem Jak]

Wahoo!

Count me in. I'll pay entry fee up to 5M for BC and either cruiser or assault frig class.

That said, had been *about* to propose some INTRA-corp PvP during the mining op. Either have an agressor squad hunting the miners or basic 1on1 attemped ganks. This has the added benefit of maybe reducing any humiliation we might suffer at the hands of Cognet ;-P

Either way, sounds fun.

Wil

[carita]

I think assult frigs will be out of the question, not enough ppl can fly em, other than that I'd love to have a go at ya with my iskhur

[mojo]

You can have named fittings, but not Tech 2 and No Faction fittings or ships. There is no fee for entering. The prize fund will be paid for by the 2 corps. The team event will involve 2 or 3 mixed type ships for example a BS, a Jammer, and a tackler, although the makeup of each team is down to those teams to work out. You can have 3 BS if you want.

Mojo

[carita]

I'd really preffer to see standard tech I fittings only, giving the poor ppl less of a disadvantage, that way it doesn't become a competition on how mutch ISK ye wanna/can waste on this

[mojo]

By restricting it to standard fittings you are putting newer members at a disadvantage because of them having lower SP. This is mean to be a little more realistic, you can use named mods, but of course if you dont want to .....

On the subject of isk, it will cost nothing because you can sell whatever items you buy after the tourny is over. Only frigs will be fought to destruction.

Mojo

[carita]

players with lower SP is at a disadvantage nomatter what, obviusly.
named items only puts poor ppl at a disadvantage aswell, there's no 2 week refund if you keep the recét on the eve market

[mojo]

Carita, those are the rules if you don't like them then don't join in the tourny. Perhaps instead of moaning about things you might actually do something positive and organise your own event.

[carita]

wow easy there, I thought the thread was ment to discouse the rules and other aspects, didn't realise they were carved in stone allready

[Bothrops]

Seems that any 1v1 tourney will be mostly decided by character age. Restrictions in favor of saving ISK merely reduce the scope of responding strategies -- i.e., if I can't use my T2 drones and/or armor repair to counteract your missiles, it'll just flatten the fight. Especially since, in that case, it gives the missiles a big advantage (kill the drones, because they'll crumble fast). There's little room for actual play styles except for trying to adjust for distance. Otherwise it's just a matter of hitting all the buttons to turn on your stuff and waiting for the calculations, and the outcome is likely to look like a list ranking characters by age.

IMO, if you're gonna run a restricted tournament, then it should be mostly team oriented. Classes of competing pairs -- such as frigs, 1BS+1frig, cruisers, 2x BS -- allow for real tactical mix and match, effectiveness of communication, planning against lots of possible combinations, as well as some real dynamics in how something can turn out. It promises to be more interesting.

One other comment -- if you look at a lot items, it's clear that many T2 mods are cheaper than some of the named mods (not even talking faction here). So doing it in the interest of saving ISK is a bit awry.

[mojo]

Hi Bo,

Glad to see you look at our forum :-) I have taken on board what you have said and the team event will cover mixing and matching pairs or sets of ships. The reason for my T2 nerf was to assist newer members that dont yet have the skills for T2 mods. Its not so much about saving isk, because as you rightly state T2 items are fairly cheap these days.

I disagree with age being the sole deciding factor of all fights, although I accept that SP will have a huge impact on the result, I think strategy and setup will play an equally big role. This was demonstrated in my recent sparring match with Telly, who is older than me, and yet my setup proved that without the extra SP I can still be effective.

To assist in this I will publish the ships that will be used during each fight, this will allow the competitors to try to setup against that specific ship. Although you are right that your drones will die quicker, our missiles will hit less hard with T1 mods, and our shields will also be that much weaker. In a battle with any drone ship the goal will always be to kill the drones, but then you are able to hold enough spares to account for this. Without the T2 BCUs our RoF is reduced as is our dmg per missile therefore our DPS is reduced.

I think that restricting everyone to T1 will be balanced, and will equally castrate all our ships :-)